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# RFC 215: Defining the Scope of web-platform-tests | ||
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### Summary | ||
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Define the scope of web-platform-tests to specifications which might reasonably be called "web specifications" | ||
and which are intended to be implemented by web browsers. | ||
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Additionally, define what "tentative" might reasonably be used for. | ||
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This is intended to codify existing practice, | ||
rather than represent any change. | ||
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### Details | ||
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Historically, what's been in scope for web-platform-tests has been somewhat nebulous, | ||
and largely based on a common understanding of participants, | ||
especially those on the Core Team. | ||
We should put this on surer footing, | ||
and make it easier for others to understand what is and isn't reasonable to add. | ||
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The primary aim of web-platform-tests is to test | ||
[web specifications](https://github.com/w3c/browser-specs/blob/11a71b738f5e41f9239fdcd2074153388c8c6b8b/README.md#spec-selection-criteria) | ||
[intended to be implemented by browsers](https://github.com/w3c/browser-specs/blob/11a71b738f5e41f9239fdcd2074153388c8c6b8b/README.md#categories), | ||
both RFC 2119 "must" and RFC 2119 "should" | ||
implementation requirements. | ||
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A specification does not need to have cross-vendor support for its tests to be included in web-platform-tests. | ||
(XXX: Should we set a bar of one-vendor support or are we okay with zero-vendor support?) | ||
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Additionally, other features can be added as | ||
[tentative](https://web-platform-tests.org/writing-tests/file-names.html#:~:text=.tentative,-%3A%20) | ||
tests: | ||
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* Web browser behavior currently being explored via an | ||
[explainer](https://tag.w3.org/explainers/), | ||
but without a specification yet written. | ||
(XXX: require prototyping to have started?) | ||
There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. I think by definition prototyping has started when there are tests, but I'm not sure what adding that requirement would mean in practice. Maybe pointers to bugs on file or intents to prototype? |
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* Historic but unspecified features in web browsers, | ||
especially where major browsers are interoperable, | ||
where there exists a long-term intention to specify them. | ||
(Note: this excludes features which have been deliberately removed from specifications. | ||
These are explicitly out of scope.) | ||
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There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. This arguably doesn't actually match up with what the documentation currently says:
The "in contradiction to some specification" is kinda troubling — this implies that if some spec change is made, with no expectation of implementations changing behaviour any time soon, you could change the existing tests to be tentative and add new non-tentative tests for the new behaviour. IMO, that should be against policy — anything that is tentative should be on a path to becoming non-tentative. We should probably be explicit in the scope of what can be tentative that everything which is tentative should be on a path to becoming non-tentative. I don't think the two things listed here are a complete list of cases; we also have cases:
The other thing that stands out is:
Which shows it's very often not obvious "why the test is tentative and what needs to be resolved to make it non-tentative", though that is really a separate issue. (And looking at a few random tests, the commit history often doesn't make it obvious either.) There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. I appreciate this analysis and I wonder if we should separate adding more clarity on tentative tests from the rest of this RFC. I.e. let's not attempt to boil the ocean :-) |
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Features which are optional | ||
(in RFC 2119 terms: | ||
where the conformance criteria is | ||
"may" or "may not") | ||
may be included as | ||
[optional tests](https://web-platform-tests.org/writing-tests/file-names.html#:~:text=.optional,-%3A%20) | ||
or | ||
[optional subtests](https://web-platform-tests.org/writing-tests/testharness-api.html#optional-features). | ||
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### Risks | ||
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We over-constrain what is allowed in web-platform-tests, | ||
potentially raising the bar to change what is allowed to "submit a new RFC", | ||
leading browser vendors to reduce what they submit to the project. | ||
There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. I think that there is no bar to submitting an RFC, any and all change suggestions should be welcome. I suspect you meant that there is a risk of raising the bar to adding more tests without sending an RFC first, because adding said tests would require us to relax some of these rules? |
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In theory I would be OK with zero-vendor support, since incubation can start outside browser vendors, but I worry that the necessary cleanup for unsuccessful incubations won't be done if nobody is footing the bill.
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Then again, the discussion around tentative tests below indicates that this wouldn't be a new problem.