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add : Math games and Sugar on RPi #219

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@drLite35 drLite35 commented Feb 2, 2025

added prototype idea for maths games that include two ai specific games
and added sugar on RPi as well.
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chimosky commented Feb 4, 2025

For the RPi idea, it makes sense to test and work on Pi 5 as the recent issue we had with Sugar on RPi was on that, there was no mention of it in your changes, that's one place we should direct efforts to.

For the math games, we got most of our ideas last year from said source, I think we need a different source this time so as to avoid duplicity, we did the project for GSoC and DMP last year, and run into some issues with work being replicated.

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drLite35 commented Feb 4, 2025

I didnt mention rpi 5 just kept it as sugar on rpi cause there are varying users using rpi zero , rpi 4 even more lighter versions, rest i guess it wont make much of the difference in terms whether we mention that or not cause keeping it under the umbrella of rpi would be better idea i think.

for the maths games few ideas like the bottom two are originals rest 6 ideas i took from the same source as last year but I checked on sugar they are not developed by anyone/they are different, would it be better if i bring in my own original ideas?

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chimosky commented Feb 4, 2025

I didnt mention rpi 5 just kept it as sugar on rpi cause there are varying users using rpi zero , rpi 4 even more lighter versions, rest i guess it wont make much of the difference in terms whether we mention that or not cause keeping it under the umbrella of rpi would be better idea i think.

We can't make Sugar work for all versions, we can focus on the one you worked on and the ones after it.
Mentioning is for focus, and gives an idea of our expectations.

for the maths games few ideas like the bottom two are originals rest 6 ideas i took from the same source as last year but I checked on sugar they are not developed by anyone/they are different, would it be better if i bring in my own original ideas?

I'm not opposed to your own ideas, we just have to agree on it.

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drLite35 commented Feb 4, 2025

I will change it to RPi 5 but I guess there is some confusion it works on all the version doesnt matter at this point of time whether its rpi 4 or 5.

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drLite35 commented Feb 4, 2025

Math game ideas, are there any source i should look into for games or any suggestions on how to proceed?

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quozl commented Feb 4, 2025

For a project idea, I agree, limit to one Raspberry Pi model.

However, any software engineer working on this would be expected to try on other models, and try with under- and over-clocking to flush out any race conditions. Our use of D-Bus and networking in general hasn't always been good.

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chimosky commented Feb 4, 2025

I will change it to RPi 5 but I guess there is some confusion it works on all the version doesnt matter at this point of time whether its rpi 4 or 5.

The Pi 5 issue says it doesn't work for all versions.

Math game ideas, are there any source i should look into for games or any suggestions on how to proceed?

None comes to mind.

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drLite35 commented Feb 4, 2025

Yes based on the suggestions of @quozl and @chimosky it makes more sense to change it RPi 5 and as @quozl checking for all version should be expected so it can be done if developer wants to but yes will change it RPi 5 (latest version which works perfectly).

Maths games @chimosky what is your opinion on the games i picked ,
I picked based on these criteria :-
1- They are interesting
2- They include very playful and basic version of ai games.
3- They are not yet developed.

Any suggestion if i should change the games(they are tentative mostly)
because my plan is to include more and more ai based games only.

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chimosky commented Feb 4, 2025

Maths games @chimosky what is your opinion on the games i picked , I picked based on these criteria :- 1- They are interesting 2- They include very playful and basic version of ai games. 3- They are not yet developed.

I haven't seen anything you picked, also why is "basic version of ai games" something we care about?

Any suggestion if i should change the games(they are tentative mostly) because my plan is to include more and more ai based games only.

Why more AI based games only? I also haven't seen a list of games.

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drLite35 commented Feb 4, 2025

Maths games @chimosky what is your opinion on the games i picked , I picked based on these criteria :- 1- They are interesting 2- They include very playful and basic version of ai games. 3- They are not yet developed.

I haven't seen anything you picked, also why is "basic version of ai games" something we care about?

Any suggestion if i should change the games(they are tentative mostly) because my plan is to include more and more ai based games only.

Why more AI based games only? I also haven't seen a list of games.

They seem more fun I only learned very recently ML and DL concepts , though they are 2 only at this point once you can read and suggest if you want them or not.

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drLite35 commented Feb 4, 2025

The list breakdown is beyond resource is :-
2 ai based game (but they are ai concept based like one pattern recognition and other one is supervised learning based the concept of game i have written the description)
1 is the famous pattern - Sierpinski triangle
2 is logic based
1 is based on euclid lemma
rest 2 are math concept based like identity

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There are certainly many more math games we could pursue. But we've n different implementations of Sierpinski triangle :P Let's be a bit more ambitious.

FWIW, a nice four-color map game could be fun.

And more fun with tessellations.

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drLite35 commented Feb 5, 2025

There are certainly many more math games we could pursue. But we've n different implementations of Sierpinski triangle :P Let's be a bit more ambitious.

FWIW, a nice four-color map game could be fun.

And more fun with tessellations.

Thanks @walterbender https://www.transum.org/maths/activity/colouring/
Are we talking about this one, indeed it can be included.

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chimosky commented Feb 5, 2025

There are certainly many more math games we could pursue. But we've n different implementations of Sierpinski triangle :P Let's be a bit more ambitious.
FWIW, a nice four-color map game could be fun.
And more fun with tessellations.

Thanks @walterbender https://www.transum.org/maths/activity/colouring/ Are we talking about this one, indeed it can be included.

This seems fun.

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drLite35 commented Feb 5, 2025

Once @chimosky see the current list in the pr, these new ones here and suggest which one to keep so atleast tentatively we can for now keep them.

very important point here is we can keep on updating list as we find more and more interesting games so does it make sense if i for now put them together but we can keep on modifying it as we proceed?

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