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feat: configure arbitrary provider-specific properties via annotations #4875

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Support for provider-specific annotations, that manifest as Endpoint.ProviderSpecific properties, is currently restricted to a subset of pre-defined providers. This functionality should be available to all providers, without requirement for special-case registration within the getProviderSpecificAnnotations(…) function.

The proposed changes include:

  • Inversion of logic within the getProviderSpecificAnnotations(…) function so as to treat all annotations prefixed with external-dns.alpha.kubernetes.io/, but that are not otherwise recognised, as provider-specific properties

Notes:

  • The existing allocation of annotations (i.e. whether they might be considered provider-specific or not) is somewhat unfortunate; but it is appreciated that any efforts to tidy-up annotations are likely constrained by concerns regarding backwards-compatibility
  • It is assumed that the naming of provider-specific properties (i.e. whether they should be of the form provider/property or provider-property) is an internal implementation detail, and therefore the proposed renaming does not represent any backwards-incompatibility
  • The documented suggestion for adopting annotations of the form …/webhook-<custom-annotation> is considered unwise - provider-specific properties are considered to be provider-specific, whereas the Webhook provider is considered to be a wrapper of providers, rather than a provider in and of itself (see: Moving providers out of tree #4347)
    • The renaming of Webhook related provider-specific properties (i.e. from webhook-property to webhook/property has not been implemented - implementation would be trivial, but given the conclusion that provider-specific properties associated with a Webhook provider are nonsensical, such an implementation is not being initially proposed
      • It is not clear to me, but seems unlikely, that anyone will have adopted the Webhook framework and are relying upon provider-specific properties

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  • Unit tests updated
  • End user documentation updated

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I've just discovered the existence of CRD Source, which appears to involve the crd source interrogating Kubernetes custom-resource objects of type DNSEndpoint.

Unfortunately, the DNSEndpoint CRD exposes the providerSpecific properties, which is somewhat contrary to my previous assumptions that these represent "an internal implementation detail".

This design is very unfortunate and hopefully, given its "alpha" status, can still be addressed. A far better approach would be to have end-users apply annotations on the DNSEntrypoint objects, in much the same way as end-users are expected to apply annotations to every other type of Kubernetes object that may be used as a source, and have the crdSource call getProviderSpecificAnnotations(…) passing the annotations from the DNSEndpoint object being considered.

I suggest that part of the confusion surrounding these provider-specific annotations/properties is that Endpoint.ProviderSpecific fulfils two distinct roles:

  • Providing a mechanism to convey additional, potentially provider-specific, configuration from end-users to DNS provider[s] (i.e. as specified via annotations on sources)
  • Providing a mechanism for DNS provider[s] to convey additional configuration from the DNS record[s] obtained from interrogating the DNS Zone, to be used when updating/modifying any existing DNS records

This commingling of responsibilities can easily result in unintended consequences; the most readily reproducible ones being that specifying an unsupported provider-specific property, such as suggested in the CRD source example (i.e. specifying a Cloudflare provider-specific property when using any provider other than Cloudflare) results in the DNS records generated being perpetually out-of-sync with the source object (i.e. the Endpoint generated from the source contains the provider-specific property, the Endpoint generated from the provider observing the pre-existing DNS record does not contain the provider-specific property, the system sees this as an inconsistency to be resolved and therefore deletes and recreates the DNS record ad infinitum).

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This design is very unfortunate and hopefully, given its "alpha" status, can still be addressed. A far better approach would be to have end-users apply annotations on the DNSEntrypoint objects, in much the same way as end-users are expected to apply annotations to every other type of Kubernetes object that may be used as a source, and have the crdSource call getProviderSpecificAnnotations(…) passing the annotations from the DNSEndpoint object being considered.

I think I agree with you: it would be more consistent to use annotations, maybe in a v1alpha2 version of the CRD.

For the webhook annotation, it was introduced because some webhook providers needs it. See for example mikrotik.

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The logic seems better to me with this logic, thanks 👍 .
Would you please re-add documentation on webhook and fix ci ?
/retitle feat: configure arbitrary provider-specific properties via annotations

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For the webhook annotation, it was introduced because some webhook providers needs it. See for example mikrotik.

I've reinstated the documentation of webhook annotations, but still consider this approach misguided.

The provider-properties associated with the mikrotik example cited should be named mikrotik-…, rather than webhook-…; admittedly an approach that is not feasible without the changes proposed here (NB: the changes to the internal representation of provider-specific properties proposed here necessitate the following change to this line:

--- provider.go.orig
+++ provider.go
@@ -94,7 +94,7 @@
 func getProviderSpecific(ep *endpoint.Endpoint, ps string) string {
        value, valueExists := ep.GetProviderSpecificProperty(ps)
        if !valueExists {
-               value, _ = ep.GetProviderSpecificProperty(fmt.Sprintf("webhook/%s", ps))
+               value, _ = ep.GetProviderSpecificProperty(fmt.Sprintf("webhook-%s", ps))
        }
        return value
 }

).

Imagine scenarios if/when the AWS provider was to be repackaged to use the Webhook provider architecture; one wouldn't expect to have to rename all of the existing annotations on one's Kubernetes objects. Not to mention the preclusion of deploying a single instance of external-dns, managing multiple providers deployed via the Webhook architecture, whose webhook-… prefixed annotations would clash/commingle.

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b21b0ff adds annotation support to the DNSEndpoint custom-resources; the DNSEndpoint.Spec.Endpoints configuration appears to be largely redundant given support for the various annotations.

The only potential benefit for supporting the DNSEndpoint.Spec.Endpoints configuration is that it facilitates the representation of multiple Endpoint objects via a single DNSEndpoint Kubernetes resource; but given the inconsistent pluralisation and the challenges of associating annotations with multiple Endpoint, it is likely more intuitive to require a 1-to-1 relationship between DNSEndpoint resource and Endpoint object, or at least having one DNSEndpoint represent a single DNS name, with perhaps multiple record types (e.g. Endpoint objects representing "A" and "AAAA" records).

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The provider-properties associated with the mikrotik example cited should be named mikrotik-…, rather than webhook-…;

You're right. It makes sense to include the provider name instead of webhook.

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@mircea-pavel-anton as the author of microtik external provider, Wdyt ? Would it make sense for you ?

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mircea-pavel-anton commented Dec 22, 2024

So there are a couple of things to address here.

  1. Modifying the DNSEndpoint CRD to implement provider-specific configuration via annotations as well
  2. Changing the prefix for annotations in Ingress and Service objects

First off, I am not so sure about changing the DNSEndpoint CRD to be honest. In my view, we're using annotations for Ingress and Service objects because the API that was already there had no built-in support for specifying such configurations. Thus we had to "extend" it in this manner. When we're creating custom CRDs for a new object, it makes sense to me to have all of the configuration options under the spec of that object.

I understand it from the point of view of consistency, both from the user experience point of view (though I would argue that using the CRD directly is much less common) as well as the developer experience one (the value that gets passed to the webhook provider ends up being different when we're using annotations), but I don't really like this solution.

Secondly, I do agree that changing the prefix for webhook providers is a good idea. This is also similar to this PR #4951 that I have already commented on.

I think that, more importantly, each webhook should have a customizable prefix specified upon installation and ONLY the annotations with that prefix should be passed in as provider specific configurations (optionally, in the form of the substring that comes AFTER the prefix).

What I mean by this is that there should be a configuration option when installing external-dns with a webhook provider, maybe something like:

...
provider:
  name: webhook
  webhook:
    name: custom-name-here
    image:
      repository: ghcr.io/mirceanton/external-dns-provider-mikrotik
...

and then only unrecognized annotations that start with external-dns.alpha.kubernetes.io/custom-name-here- should be passed in to that specific webhook.

This will likely solve this issue i have also ran into, that @Dadeos-Menlo also mentioned: mirceanton/external-dns-provider-mikrotik#140

As for the second part, i.e. "optionally, in the form of the substring that comes AFTER the prefix" I mean that when we are passing in provider-specific annotations to a webhook provider via CRD configs vs annotations, the webhook itself receives different keys for the key: value.

For example:

---
apiVersion: externaldns.k8s.io/v1alpha1
kind: DNSEndpoint
metadata:
  name: complex-record
spec:
  endpoints:
    - dnsName: some.example.com
      recordTTL: 180
      recordType: A
      targets:
        - 1.2.3.4
      providerSpecific:
        - name: comment
          value: "This is a comment"

and

---

apiVersion: networking.k8s.io/v1
kind: Ingress
metadata:
  name: nginx-demo
  annotations:
    external-dns.alpha.kubernetes.io/hostname: "some.example.com"
    external-dns.alpha.kubernetes.io/ttl: "180"
    external-dns.alpha.kubernetes.io/webhook-comment: "This is a comment" annotations!"
    

Might seem the same, but for the DNS Endpoint object, the webhook receives comment as a provider-specific configuration, whereas with the annotations, it receives webhook-comment. This makes it weird in having to support both situations, like so: https://github.com/mirceanton/external-dns-provider-mikrotik/blob/main/internal/mikrotik/record.go#L138-L153


So TL;DR: yes, I do think custom annotation prefixes per provider are a good idea. I also think they should be customizable.

@kashalls do you have some thoughts on this topic? IIRC you were also impacted by this cloudflare annotation issue that kept records perpetually out of sync

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do you have some thoughts on this topic? IIRC you were also impacted by this cloudflare annotation issue that kept records perpetually out of sync

Yes, my unifi webhook provider is impacted by this issue. In my honest opinion, pretty much all of the webhook providers are affected by this.

I am leaning more towards the idea that each provider can negotiate with external-dns to determine what features are allowed / disabled / unsupported. (Maybe we can provide a list of valid annotations that the webhook expects to handle?) We already support this using the GET / to negotiate the domain filter. The documentation is extremely limited on what kind of response external-dns expects here and that could be worked to be more beneficial. Users can pretty much pass any annotation to external-dns and external-dns would require it to show back on the next reconciliation which in some provider's we don't have the ability to add "notes" or "tags" to these records so we have to handle it in the provider which is not efficient.

As for the annotation specific's I think adding a name to specifically only pass the prefixed annotations would be a good start. The user deploying the provider should be the one to create the prefix key as there might be some cases where the user wants to run two different instances of a provider. I do like this approach here because it gives the user the configuration option to choose:

...
provider:
  name: webhook
  webhook:
    name: custom-name-here
    image:
      repository: ghcr.io/mirceanton/external-dns-provider-mikrotik
...

Perhaps we could do more with the provide negotiate endpoint? Apologies if it seems more like a ramble, I am currently on a holiday trip.

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