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Adapt the similarity condition to the residual of the fixed-point problem #60
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Thanks for suggesting this new idea! Very interesting and we should definitely discuss how we can design this in the Micro Manager.
The Micro Manager would somehow need to know that a particular implicit time window is close to converging, right? This would be tricky to implement, as right now preCICE does not return any information about convergence, just whether the implicit step has converged or not.
Do you mean that we accelerate the data only once per time window? Updating the similarity condition for each implicit iteration would be easy, but we would need some pre-defined curve that each similarity variable follows (or more like a trend).
I think we can derive the logic for this by taking one case (lets say porous media) and do a large number of simulations and create a database. It would start to go into the direction of "apriori learning" some relation between the similarity condition and the fixed-point residual for a particular set of simulations.
This is probably the most important question to answer in all this. |
Sounds worth investigating indeed!
This is indeed a technical problem we need to solve. I see two hacks you could try:
I think (A) is easier during the trial and error phase. Once we know the methods works, we could start thinking about (B). |
I supposed that we could at first use the (A) idea from Benjamin above.
Yes, I meant that. Another straightforward idea is to interpolate the change of similarity condition into small substeps (if they exist), but I'm not sure if this makes sense, since we only check the overall convergence at time window end. That is I assume that the substeps in one TW are at the same overall convergence level, which results in same similarity condition for one TW.
Yes, that's one practical option. We also need to know how strongly is this relationship case-specified, which means we may need to test multiple different cases. |
We can implement something relatively simple in a branch of the Micro Manager. I can help here.
Do you mean changing the similarity condition based on a predefined interpolant?
We would only find the answers to these questions when we try this for one case. |
Generally, we postulate that the micro simulations takes up most of the computing time when we are using the Micro Manager for multiscale simulations with large number of micro simulations.
As Delaisse's paper indicated, we could
Although we are not supposed to control the tolerance of sub-problems (like what Nicolas did in the paper) in preCICE, we could control the numbers of micro simulations through the Micro Manager to get more coarse or fine solution of the whole field. That means, we could use loose similarity conditions to solve less micro problems and thus get coarse result and use strict similarity condition when we are close to the convergence.
Based on this idea, we need to discuss following points:
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