KitQL & Houdini

[jycouet]

For the past 2 months, @AlecAivazis and I have started to figure out what would be the best GraphQL EcoSystem in SvelteKit? We both have a great library working on similar topics but not tackling the thing the same way.

We decided to join forces and provide THE best experience for the community, for you 🥳

In short

• KitQL contains all that you can dream of when you speak about SvelteKit & GraphQL... client (Houdini), server (Yoga), modules, linting, best practices, ... and more!
• Houdini is THE client-side of SvelteKit & GraphQL, managing operations, stores, inline, caching, optimistic UI, pagination, ... and more!
• How it look like? 🎨🪄👇

Next?

To continue the story, we are proceeding in steps (in public!)
🔵 Store API in Houdini HoudiniGraphql/houdini#291
🔵 Houdini Preview
🔵 Tweak docs
🔵 Adjusting KitQL workflow
🔵 Official release of KitQL & Houdini working together

We are confident now that this will happen in the coming weeks and will start communicating more about it.

🙏 Your feedback is very much appreciated.

[frederikhors]

I am the architect of this union!

Congratulations guys! Can't wait to try and give you feedback!

[gevera]

Wow. I was about to switch to Houdini for the lack of Subscriptions in KitQL. Now this union of Houdini and KitQL is perfect. Looking forward for the release!

[giray123]

Hi, KitQL looks awesome 🙏 and we have decided to use it for our company product although it is in the early stages. We thought may be it is a good idea to wait for the Houdini integration, because it might change the structure quite a bit. Do you have an estimation about when the integration will be released so that we can also plan for our migration?

[jycouet]

Thank you for your nice comment. We are working hard for you guys 🪄 🥳
It's complicated for us to give you a date as we want to cover a lot of use cases and have an easy migration from both sides.
For sure it's "as soon as possible".

We will keep you posted

[choudel]

I like kitql , I knew about it because I had problems with Urql , with kitql I didn't had similar problems it was smooth sailing , the thing is my graphql schema is generated with postgraphile and it's massive what could you suggest for me ? also i'm not very pro lol

[jycouet]

No worries. You will be able to do the same thing 👌
And we will still point to your schema (generated or not)

[mingsterism]

From looking at the Houdini docs, i looks like KitQL is totally integrated into Houdini and there's no mention of KitQL.
Ultimately would KitQL be replaced by houdini, and should we just use houdini?

[AlecAivazis]

Good question @mingsterism! If you pardon me speaking for @jycouet i might be able to answer your questions.

So right away let me say that KitQL is still going very strong. I know @jycouet has many plans for KitQL and I’m really looking forward to helping make them real. This project has always been about providing the best possible “batteries included” solution for full-stack GraphQL in SvelteKit and it will absolutely continue to do that. The only real change moving forward is that the client side of a KitQL project will use Houdini for fetching and mutating data.

KitQL brings a lot to the table to streamline your dev process so I wouldn’t think of Houdini as a replacement for KitQL. Instead it’s more like Houdini is becoming part of the KitQL Stack.

[letmejustputthishere]

very much looking forward to that!

[nikfp]

Super excited to see what you all came up with!

[mingsterism]

thanks guys. really excited for this !!

[mingsterism]

heyy guys. saw that 0.15.0 pull request was merged !!
would like to know is there a link we can go to for documentation to test it out?
also shall we look at the docs under kitql or under houdini?

[AlecAivazis]

Wow you're quick! Yep! Everything is getting merged as I type this 🎉 we really appreciate everyone's patience while we figured out all the small details.

We already have an update for the KitQL docs but @jycouet is speaking at Svelte Austria tonight so he has to finish preparing his slides. We'll update this discussion once everything is ready so you can check it out 👍

[jycouet]

@AlecAivazis and I are happy to unveil a massive effort

✅ New version of Houdini
✅ New version of KitQL

We are joining forces to:

Bring the best GraphQL experience to Svelte 🎉

Infos & guides in the link below 👇
https://www.the-guild.dev/blog/houdini-and-kitql

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[maku]

Just to be curious. When I have a existing graphql backend should I use only houdini or kitql?

[jycouet]

Houdini, as it's the client, will do the perfect job for you 👍