Licensing announcement - Purchase a license to support Immich!

[alextran1502]

Licensing announcement - Purchase a license to support Immich!

Important

Please read the updated plan to change the wording here #11313

Hello everybody,

Firstly, on behalf of the Immich team, I'd like to thank everybody for your continuous support of Immich since the very first day! Your contributions, encouragement, and community engagement have helped bring Immich to its current state. The team and I are forever grateful for that.

Since our last announcement of the core team joining FUTO to work on Immich full-time, one of the goals of our new position is to foster a healthy relationship between the developers and the users. We believe that this enables us to create great software, establish transparent policies and build trust.

We want to build a great software application that brings value to you and your loved ones' lives. We are not using you as a product, i.e., selling or tracking your data. We are not putting annoying ads into our software. We respect your privacy. We want to be compensated for the hard work we put in to build Immich.

With those notes, we have enabled a way for you to financially support the continued development of Immich, ensuring the software can move forward and will be maintained, by offering a lifetime license of the software. We think if you like and use software, you should pay for it, but we're never going to force anyone to pay or try to limit Immich for those who don't.

There are two types of license that you can choose to purchase: Server License and Individual License.

Server License

This is a lifetime license costing $99.99. The license is applied to the whole server. You and all users that use your server are licensed.

Individual License

This is a lifetime license costing $24.99. The license is applied to a single user, and can be used on any server they choose to connect to.

You can purchase the license on our page - https://buy.immich.app.

Starting with release v1.109.0 you can purchase and enter your purchased license key directly in the app.

Thank you

Thank you again for your support, this will help create a strong foundation and stability for the Immich team to continue developing and maintaining the project that you love to use.

Cheers! 🎉

Immich team

FAQ

1. Where can I purchase a license?

There are several places where you can purchase the license from https://buy.immich.app or directly in the web app.

2. Do I need both Individual License and Server License?

No,

If you are the admin and the sole user, or your instance has less than a total of 4 users, you can buy the Individual License for each user.

If your instance has more than 4 users, it is more cost-effective to buy the Server License, which will license all the users on your instance.

3. What do I do if I don't pay?

You can continue using Immich without any restriction

4. Will there be any paywalled features?

No, there will never be any paywalled features.

5. Where can I get support regarding payment issues?

You can email us with your orderId and your email address [email protected] or on our Discord server.

[sym0nd0]

Happy to support this, the different licenses confuse me though.

[MRobi1]

We want to help you save on cost if you have lots of people using your instance, thus the tier reason

This line says it all right here. "we want to help you save on costs" says that the intent is a required payment. Also directing people to the individual licence which is a 1yr licence vs a lifetime licence is far more costly long term.

I'll be switching back to photo prism over the weekend. This is clearly where Immich will start a big downward turn and while you say today that you'll never hide features behind a paywall, the constant nag and requirement to buy a licence is just as bad.

Such a shame.

[zackpollard]

We want to help you save on cost if you have lots of people using your instance, thus the tier reason

This line says it all right here. "we want to help you save on costs" says that the intent is a required payment. Also directing people to the individual licence which is a 1yr licence vs a lifetime licence is far more costly long term.

I'll be switching back to photo prism over the weekend. This is clearly where Immich will start a big downward turn and while you say today that you'll never hide features behind a paywall, the constant nag and requirement to buy a licence is just as bad.

Such a shame.

Both licenses are lifetime, not sure where you got that from...

[stephen304]

@MRobi1 Not that I disagree about the nag or having the license be in any way required, but the individual "license" is also "lifetime" - granted that just means a lifetime of having the "Licensed" badge.

Still I really wish they would just rename this whole thing a donation for a supporter badge, and change the nag box into an unobtrusive donation box. It's unnecessary to pretend that they're selling the software when that confuses, misleads, and upsets people about what that could mean for the future, meanwhile I don't think anyone would disagree with having supporter badges as long as there are no nag screens or cheapening of the non-supporter experience (a la "Unlicensed", "Free Tier", "Trial").

[MRobi1]

We want to help you save on cost if you have lots of people using your instance, thus the tier reason

This line says it all right here. "we want to help you save on costs" says that the intent is a required payment. Also directing people to the individual licence which is a 1yr licence vs a lifetime licence is far more costly long term.
I'll be switching back to photo prism over the weekend. This is clearly where Immich will start a big downward turn and while you say today that you'll never hide features behind a paywall, the constant nag and requirement to buy a licence is just as bad.
Such a shame.

Both licenses are lifetime, not sure where you got that from...

Possible I misread or got it in my heads for the comment. But yes, double checked and both are lifetime. My bad. Purchasing a license is a legal agreement I'm not willing to enter into though.

[Julian-1-2-3-4-5]

We want to help you save on cost if you have lots of people using your instance, thus the tier reason

This line says it all right here. "we want to help you save on costs" says that the intent is a required payment. Also directing people to the individual licence which is a 1yr licence vs a lifetime licence is far more costly long term.

I'll be switching back to photo prism over the weekend. This is clearly where Immich will start a big downward turn and while you say today that you'll never hide features behind a paywall, the constant nag and requirement to buy a licence is just as bad.

Such a shame.

right now it's probably quite easy to fork the project and remove the poor wording, would be my course if this doesn't get better

[skidunion]

Will there ever be an option to pay with Bitcoin/other crypto?

[alextran1502]

I believe the FUTO team is working on that payment method

[esackbauer]

Can't wait to pay for the license when Bitcoin Lightning Network is possible. Instant transactions and actually no/very very low fees.
Also no problems if a payment provider or immichs webshop gets hacked/leaked, because Lightning Network is more private than the public blockchain.
https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver

[sym0nd0]

I mean, Bitcoin in 2024 is not the one. Far better and cheaper options available now, Lightning Network or not. As an example, Litecoin is cheaper, faster and has had Lightning Network since 2016/17.

Then for privacy there's Monero, but difficult now due to being delisted from many exchanges.

[bozzio83]

Share by face and I'll buy instantly

[Finkregh]

Did you create a feature request? Perhaps buy a "license" and see that as upfront payment?

[bozzio83]

Can you describe more what you mean by that? Would it be like any photos identified as "Person A" will be automatically shared with "Person A"?

I have kids.. I would like it so everytime either i or my wife take a picture of either of my kids it gets shared to the other automatically.. Google photos has this.

[mertalev]

We're working on a Workflows feature that lets you do that and more. It will let you set if/then style rules and automatically take actions based on them.

[bozzio83]

We're working on a Workflows feature that lets you do that and more. It will let you set if/then style rules and automatically take actions based on them.

That is fantastic. I can't wait

[hosaka]

I'll keep my github sponsorship until this gets added and insta-buy a license after that.

[memehammad]

Tf is this bro just put a donation link somewhere 💀💀💀

[Mansour-J]

Agreed, prefer to be a supporter than buying license... please reconsider this

[peng1can]

In addition, calling it a lifetime license instead of a donation will probably harm long-term income. People would quite probably make a $25-100 donation more than once over the years. But sell them a lifetime license and you're unlikely to see another dime. I say that out of genuine concern because lifetime licenses don't exactly have a great reputation for being sustainable.

[Deedikjupijn]

@peng1can well they do want to bring it as an actual license for the software. You arent forced into it so if you dont want to then dont but it does be the actual cost of the product (they just wont call it theft if you do not pay). Maybe they could add a donation url somewhere even tho I would not like it to have a donation button aswell as an license option.

[tomsik-radek]

@peng1can well they do want to bring it as an actual license for the software. You arent forced into it so if you dont want to then dont but it does be the actual cost of the product (they just wont call it theft if you do not pay). Maybe they could add a donation url somewhere even tho I would not like it to have a donation button aswell as an license option.

Then don't call it a license.

[stratacast]

What this needs is the license and a tip jar somewhere. I was planning on donating $$ per year, after a few years a single license would be losing income on someone like me, who'd give perpetually a bit over a long time

[handro123]

I'm confused, what is or is not included in the Trial Period?

[DanGarion]

Trail Period, regardless of it saying it is an unlimited trail period makes me feel that someday it will be limited.

[alextran1502]

The "Trial" word is used from the reason of "you should try something before you decide if you like it or not"

[alextran1502]

Changed the wording to avoid confusion

[MRobi1]

The different is just the text saying that you are licensed or unlicensed. There is no difference in the feature set [...]

There might be no difference for now, but I bet we'll start to see new features released only for "licensed" servers and users...

Or at the very least a constant nag to purchase a license

[TheTerrasque]

We will never do any paywalled features ever. Is that good enough?

Where is the feature for not having a big "Buy" button in the web interface?

[NomadicDeveloper22]

[bcye]

Not even really unusual, see Cryptomator, DAVx5, etc.

[bcsteeve]

also makes it feel my past donations to the project are absolutely worthless now and that it kinda was a mistake. I understand the move and that it's the case but it still hurts a bit

Yeah that's a good point

[tomsik-radek]

Calling them licenses definitely was not a good move. Makes it so misleading

Disagree. He's being upfront about it. Not misleading at all. A bit unusual, I guess? But not misleading.

Yes, he is upfront about this, and we can disagree with it.

[pikapower9080]

Calling them licenses definitely was not a good move. Makes it so misleading

I agree, I understand this change as someone who's been using Immich for a while, but if I were a new user I might be worried seeing an "Unlicensed" indicator.

[k3d3]

also makes it feel my past donations to the project are absolutely worthless now and that it kinda was a mistake. I understand the move and that it's not the case but it still hurts a bit

I haven't tried immich with licensing yet, but my understanding is paying for a license just changes text from "unlicensed" to "licensed". Maybe it would be a good idea to also consider past donators as "licensed" as well, or some other text like "supporter".

EDIT: #11186 (reply in thread) Seems like as a past donator, they will give you a license if you ask for one. That's pretty nice!

[solankimihir]

I don't like the fact that it will say trial period on my self hosted instance.

[lbrame]

I don't like the fact that it will say trial period on my self hosted instance.

In an AGPL-licensed self-hosted instance, too. It also implies that we do not hold a valid license and are stuck on an "infinite trial" period. This is simply complete nonsense - we hold the AGPL v.3 license when we use Immich, and this is a full license valid for any use which respects the four freedoms.

I really don't like this shareware terminology - it also feels like the rug might be pulled at some time, and it eerily reeks of corporate speech for "we are exploring ways to move some development to proprietary components but we are stuck with an AGPL core, let's pave the way for these future developments and keep our options open".

Please ping me if the community happens to decide on a fork. If a satisfactory resolution isn't reached, then I would be more than happy to move on to a community - supported derivative work that does not guilt trip me into believing my AGPL v.3 license is just a free trial. Ironically, had it been a "donate" button of some sorts, I would have happily paid. But with how hard it is being pushed through a borderline dark pattern, my gut refuses to do it. It feels sketchy.

[alextran1502]

@lbrame if you are interested in reading the follow up announcement about the change of wording, you can see here #11226

[lbrame]

@lbrame if you are interested in reading the follow up announcement about the change of wording, you can see here #11226

Very much interested, thank you! I'm browsing from mobile and missed that link. I believe changing the wording would already solve most of the problem here, thanks for taking community feedback into consideration

[alextran1502]

@lbrame no problem, sorry for the confusion.

Have a good weekend!

[lightweight]

I strongly agree with you here @lbrame - calling it a 'license' is both misleading and against the terms of the AGPL (see the last paragraph of section 10).

[RavMazurek]

I did buy license but I don't like this 'licensed' label in left down corner - can we have an option to hide it for paid users?

[zackpollard]

We were actually just discussing that, we'll add a setting for that soon 🙂

[RavMazurek]

@zackpollard I also have one more thing - I expected that I will get email with a key but I didn't - is there a way to backup my license in case of server failer? I can't find key in immich also

[alextran1502]

@RavMazurek Can you send in your issue to [email protected]

[lichenscon]

You can remove the element by adding

.license-status {
    display: none !important;
}

to your theme settings.

[solankimihir]

@lichenscon This works!
Thanks

[bcye]

Do previous supporters get a complementary license?

[Bytelake]

@alextran1502 Will you be sending license keys to all past donors automatically or do we need to reach out? And now seeing that the wording/"licensed" is changing, does it even matter?

(also for whatever you choose to go with for the new wording, I'd love something that adds some badge or wording to paid servers, instead of adding a subscription nag to all the free ones)

[alextran1502]

@Bytelake we are working on it. And yes it is still matter

[Deedikjupijn]

@Bytelake we are working on it. And yes it is still matter

If it just changes a bit of text and nothing else what is the matter? This wording seems to contradict the forever free trial with every feature...

[MarkAC007]

Thanks @alextran1502 appreciate the license and more than happy to continue to support you via month Github.

[leepfrog-ger]

Any option for liberapay donors as well?

[VictorHachard]

A license can be transferred to another server if necessary, for example, when moving the service ?

[alextran1502]

@tomsik-radek, we are not checking if multiple instances are activated at once. It all comes down to your own ethical judgment here

[tomsik-radek]

@tomsik-radek, we are not checking if multiple instances are activated at once. It all comes down to your own ethical judgment here

I was hoping this would be the case, as it should be. Thank you!

[zackpollard]

The purchase confirmation email includes two keys. Both are used to verify your license entirely locally to the server. If you enter only the short key (for simplicity), the other one will automatically be retrieved from the purchase servers, and then used for local activation. We don't track how often a key has been used or anything like that.

So phoning home is involved. Thank you for clarifying, this should really be in the docs. And how are you checking if multiple instances are activated at once?

To clarify it also only does this on the web at the time of activation, the server never phones home as it always receives both keys and can validate them locally

[tomsik-radek]

The purchase confirmation email includes two keys. Both are used to verify your license entirely locally to the server. If you enter only the short key (for simplicity), the other one will automatically be retrieved from the purchase servers, and then used for local activation. We don't track how often a key has been used or anything like that.

So phoning home is involved. Thank you for clarifying, this should really be in the docs. And how are you checking if multiple instances are activated at once?

To clarify it also only does this on the web at the time of activation, the server never phones home as it always receives both keys and can validate them locally

So that is only for the user license?

[stephen304]

So that is only for the user license?

That's for both types, they work the same the only difference is the server license automatically saves to the server settings and shows the activated message server-wide and the user license gets directed to the user settings service and only shows the activated message for that user. In either case if you enter just the license in the UI instead of using the link that provides both, the browser fetches the activation before sending it to the immich instance to be validated.

I took a look at the source and saw that a public key is baked into the server, and the license is basically an arbitrary string with a prefix determining if it's a server or individual license. This is either encrypted or signed with the private key that immich keeps secret, so with the baked-in public key, license string, and activation key, the server can verify that the activation key either decrypts to or is the signed license string (idk which method is used but it has the same effect, only the holder of the private key can generate valid activation code for any arbitrary key by encrypting or signing it).

The "browser phone home" is just to retrieve the activation key if you only have the license, but you get both the license and the activation code in the email which lets you activate fully offline - there's just no UI to do this at the moment aside from the formatted link in the purchase email - but I tested and saw that I could activate my server offline by manually sending it the license and activation.

You could also edit the baked in license public key to your own so you can generate your own keys, and even if you didn't edit the license server url you should be able to activate with your own keys as long as you provide both a license string and a valid activation generated using your private key.

[o10s]

Will it be possible to move the license or re apply it when a server is rebuilt or fails ? (Because I tinker a lot and my instances come and go !)

[alextran1502]

Yes you can

[CaptainFizz]

Will it be possible to move the license or re apply it when a server is rebuilt or fails ? (Because I tinker a lot and my instances come and go !)

Yeah, this was my question as undoubtedly I will f things up myself. :D. Glad of the answer too.

[justin-pierce]

Will these funds only be going to the core developers or are there plans to compensate open source contributions from outsiders in some way? Perhaps a bounty program?

[mertalev]

We've briefly talked about making donations to some of the projects we use, like libvips. We don't have anything set in place for this at the moment, but I think it's a great idea and worth pursuing.

[TheMoodBoardz]

Will it ve possible in the future to allow white labelling for license holders? also where can we find the EULA for this license if it has one?

[Gamerayers]

Said the exact same thing on reddit.
License, and unlicensed more specifically, are VERY legal terms and means if they wanted to take litigation against unlicensed copies, they could. BAD terms for a good software looking for methods for people to simply provide a 1-time payment to continue funding. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE reconsider using different terms like supporter, premium server/user, paid tier vs free tier. Stay away from licensed vs unlicensed. From a user perspective, licensed vs unlicensed leaves the user vulnerable to future issues.

[alextran1502]

Thank you for the heads-up, let us rethink this to see if any other wording that clarify the intentions better

[tomsik-radek]

Thank you for the heads-up, let us rethink this to see if any other wording that clarify the intentions better

I think poll should happen for the name. I vote for Free and Premium tiers.

[TheMoodBoardz]

Thank you for the heads-up, let us rethink this to see if any other wording that clarify the intentions better

I think poll should happen for the name. I vote for Free and Premium tiers.

I think that's too far... I would much prefer a Standard & Support wording as the whole "goal" of this was to show our support.

[The next part is applying UK law]

Using "license" implies something legal or tangible, with its current state there isn't anything tangible or binding between you and the user other than the purchase transaction of the key.

I want Immich to succeed however in this current form - for me anyways, it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth as it sounds like the path that Cal & others went down is happening again. I'm not sure what a better solution than this is to ensure sustainability but I know it's not this.

[domacikolaci]

"Community" and "Supporter" or something along those lines makes complete more sense about whats going on here imo. Agreed that "License" was a poor choice of wording here

[collse]

I have to agree that the term license has been chosen very unwisely as the license that applies should be GNU AGPL v3 License - Community / Supporter would have been a much more applicable choice of terms for the support gesture

[tomsik-radek]

Or just "Premium" and "Free" tiers. If my family sees "unlicensed" in the bottom corner they will nope TF out.

[juanlufont]

Or just "Premium" and "Free" tiers. If my family sees "unlicensed" in the bottom corner they will nope TF out.

Honestly, labeling the default experience "Free tier" kind of cheapens it. I would prefer something like "Community Edition" and "Patreon edition".

[tomsik-radek]

Or just "Premium" and "Free" tiers. If my family sees "unlicensed" in the bottom corner they will nope TF out.

Honestly, labeling the default experience "Free tier" kind of cheapens it. I would prefer something like "Community Edition" and "Patreon edition".

Or that. They could do a poll. Really most labels would be better than "Unlicensed".

[oddstr13]

In the name of transparency, I would encourage you to set the price to $100 and $25.
I perceive the .99 pricing scheme to be disingenuous and an attempt to trick buyers to think the price is lower than it really is (a fact).
Please see the psychological pricing article on Wikipedia for more details around the practice.

[alextran1502]

We can do this

[Zaczero]

The idea is good, but it needs to be explained well to be perceived well. Currently, it's not clear enough that the licensing is completely optional and that you can continue using the free version forever (and people read headlines). I also have an issue with the pricing, and at least in my case, the license cost is way too high. Here's how I would address that: different licensing tiers are fine, but let people optionally choose a different payment amount (decided by the user). I would see the $100 and $25 prices only as suggestions. Just because this pricing makes sense in the US, it does not for most places around the world. I still love and support the project and look forward to its great future!

[sieempi]

There are so many things wrong with this approach!..
There are many ways to support Immich without calling it licences or whatever, it's just a first step to closing down this project, as seen in sooo many other projects. Soon there will be alternate forks, questions about locked data to commercial version, imposibility to downgrade and so on.
Project stalled, for me, I'm sorry to say that, I've been attracted the most by its openness.

[Deedikjupijn]

Maybe they could actually make the license mean something, for example buying yourself into an agreement with futo that legally binds them to the promise of keeping the software open source/free for a certain time period (a couple years from purchase), this would make sure their meaningless promises actually start to matter.

Not sure how these kinds of things work when taking in consideration different country's and laws but im sure this would not actually be the hard part.

Really curious what your/others take on this is and as always hope you have a great day!

[basdp]

This is not how open source software should work. Sad to see Immich go this route. RIP. Only a matter of time now...

[basdp]

Also, a "License" is something else. The license is AGPL-3.0, with paying you don't get a license. This is just wrong.

[cthu1hoo]

Dark patterns, unremovable "you're using a trial version" UI elements now, I'm certain popups will come later, we all know how this works. Sad to see Immich become enshittified, and so quickly too.

[ldivl]

Kind of a crazy amount of people complaining in here. I have no problem paying for license, fact is if there is 0 money going into something ever it ends up dying and turning to crap.

[segdy]

Sorry you have no clue what you’re talking about and you did clearly not read the comments.

To summarize: This is an OPEN SOURCE project. It IS licensed already, the license is called AGPL. Few people here complain about paying for the software but making a commercial enterprise out of the code of an AGPL software. (Nearly) everyone here is on board to financially support the project and/or support a company providing additional services based on the project

And lastly, your “fact” is BS. Way too many examples of extremely successful open source software that did not turn into crap (HA, Linux, Nextcloud just to name a very few) but many which turned into crap after monetizing the code, adding paywalls, restrictions or making important parts closed source (eg Zarafa/Kopano).

[bo0tzz]

All the projects you named have money going into them though ;)

[basdp]

@bo0tzz yes, but the way they have organized this is much more friendly and better for the community. I've never seen a screaming 'YOU-HAVE-NOT-PAID-BANNER' in my Home Assistant installation ON EVERY PAGE. Linux doesn't do that. Nextcloud doesn't do that.

That is the issue. It's not about trying to make the project financially stable and viable, we're all for that, but it's about the way it's done.

[lbrame]

Nobody here is arguing big projects shouldn't have money flowing into it. We are arguing that, if you really want to monetize something, you must have a sustainable and working business model in place. It's one of the main skills that are crucial to the success of something, and are completely unrelated to technical prowess. Everyone here wants Immich to succeed. I'm sure many people - me included - would be more than happy putting money into the project as a donation; personally, I have paid for far worse software much more. The point is - your business model should not come to the detriment of the quality and nature of the software.

Past this point, your investments are, ultimately, your responsibility. For the same reason you wouldn't plan your retirement with a blindfold, you should know what you're getting yourself into when you put money into a self-hosted, AGPL-licensed, free software project for personal use that cannot easily use the main FOSS strategy of "sell the enterprise support for it" in a way that does not negatively impact the product itself. So, the money and funding part, is FUTO's own responsibility and a logical consequences of a choice they made (and that they can still pull out from, if it proves unfeasible). It's our job as a community to give constructive feedback and try to foster a relationship that works well, makes the development of this project healthy and sustainable for everybody, without compromising the FOSS nature of it - neither in licensing, nor in philosophy.

What you insist is "whining" is actually us, as a community, being responsible and doing what we have to. It's much better to talk things out in a civil and constructive manner to help find a solution of the issue that leaves all stakeholders satisfied (yes - this is often possible - though challenging). Meta-discussion, bikeshedding, flaming other users and starting pointless arguments is not conduct that is productive in any way.

[bo0tzz]

if you really want to monetize something, you must have a sustainable and working business model in place. (...) your business model should not come to the detriment of the quality and nature of the software.

That's exactly what we're trying to do, and being open source is an essential part of that.

What you insist is "whining"

I want to make it absolutely clear that no Immich team member has called the community response "whining"

[obrb]

The whining in here is unbelievable.

Yes, the term "license" is an unfortunate choice, and there's a little "unlicencend" message in the sidebar, but that's about it, right? I mean, does it affect the functionality of the software? No. Does it trigger the OCD of some here? Apparently, yes, but that's their problem, right?

At the end of the day you have three options:

1. You can simply continue to use the software without paying, and nothing will change for you except the small message in the sidebar.

2. You can buy a "license" to support the project, and no, you won't get any goodies or extra features.

3. If the promise of "always free" isn't good enough for you, or if you really need some extra goodies for supporting a software project, use another software or fork the project and just see how far you can get without funding or with a donate button where people might sponsor you with $2 and in return feel entitled to tell you what you need to implement and that you need to implemet it immediately because otherwise they won't use your software that you provide for free...

[basdp]

@obrb I do not recognize your point of view of the situation with Jellyfin. The clients work fantastic, both on iOS and Apple TV (Swiftfin!) as Android TV (official client plays anything). Jellyfin is actually much more polished and usable than the project it forked from (Emby) at the current stage. I think Jellyfin was the worst example of a fork-initiated project you could have given here 😅.

[oddstr13]

The Kodi add-on is a client in and of itself, and it has more than enough hard to debug issues, due to the differences between the platforms running Kodi, or features I don't use.

I don't have any AndroidTV devices, so I can't comment any on that, except that a big part of Jellyfin is on-the-fly transcoding for clients that need it.

[obrb]

I'm testing Jellyfin from time to time. And while the official Android TV app has gotten better, it still has trouble playing some of the same files that play fine with Plex (direct play) or in Kodi on the same box (nvidia SHIELD). I've never tested Emby, so I have no idea if it's better or worse. But yeah, of course not all commercial applications are inherently better than their FOSS alternatives, and vice versa.

And please don't get me wrong, I think it's amazing what the Jellyfin project is doing. Also, the Android TV app is being re-factored and thus under heavy development, so they might get there eventually, but still, with a full-time Android developer the development process would probably go a lot faster.

[oddstr13]

Could be as simple as the sub format isn't supported by the client, and as such need to be burned in, forcing a full video transcode.

[obrb]

Yeah you're probably right, but Plex doesn't have that issue with the same file, so there's that. ;-)

And if Jellyfin, instead of saying they have enough money, could fund one or two full-time developers to develop the client apps for the most popular platforms, the problem might have been solved long ago, and for that I would happily accept a little note in the sidebar, and then probably even click on it and pay for a "license" or whatever they decide to call it.

[estepnv]

I'd like to purchase a licence using USDT, is it possible?

[OctoSheep]

I have previously sponsored immich, is there any possibility of obtaining a discount on the license?

[bo0tzz]

Yes, we're working on a way for past sponsors to redeem a key.

[OctoSheep]

Glad to hear that. And thank you for your work.

[entonjackson]

I still haven't received any invoice from [email protected]. They just won't reply to my mails...

[script-js]

thanks for not being Spotify

[matejkramny]

Hi, I just wanted to say - ever since I started using this project, I wanted to donate somewhere, but I never saw the option anywhere.

Now that there is one, i'm somewhat conflicted. On one hand, I want to support you guys. On the other hand, I believe lifetime licenses are unsustainable from a business perspective. The core contributors/full time engineers need a salary which is a recurring outcome, yet the lifetime license is a one-time per user income.
I fully respect your decision to do this and will be buying a license myself; But I think you are making a mistake, and foresee in a few years you will revisit this and change your business model to sustain yourselves.
That's a problem because it's going to cause conflict in the community, which is where this project started!.

Cheers 🍺

[bo0tzz]

No worries, we've thought about that too ;) This current model will hold us until Immich is stable, after which we can put time into offering services like cloud-hosted Immich for a recurring income.

[P4SQL]

Any estimated timeline until when immich will be stable? I still do not like the current "licensing" model, therefore I'm asking.
Thank you!

[asychev]

The choice of term "Licensing" for basically a crowdfunding is just bad and misleading IMO.
Make it something like "Supporter" with random amount to pay (maybe with starting point like $25) - and call it a day.
Same goals - way better perception...

[pippo73]

Hi all,
I'm trying to buy my licence to support your great job, but it seems that euro or dollars are not currency on futo platform.

Could you check out what is going on please?

[alextran1502]

Hello, thank you for supporting us. Did you use the page https://buy.immich.app?

Here is what I see when progressing with the payment

[pippo73]

I've got in touch with futo. Apparently this site is detected as dangerous site by AVG.
Is there any other way to buy you the license?

[zackpollard]

There is no other way, hopefully it will be removed from AVG's site list, as that's an incorrect flag. You could try purchasing via mobile though where you presumably don't have AVG scanning your sites?